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Hello,

My first time posting on a thread. I wanted to discuss and vent a little bit so I thought this was best way. I will get to the cryoshape towards the end.

I got my first keloid on my chest when I was twenty. I got a zit and I kept popping it and it never seemed to go away. I went to my doctor and he let me know what it was and that it can't be removed. He gave me a few steroid injections and sent me on my way.

A few years went and I continued to break out on my chest. I developed a few more around the first one and I began to get frustrated by it. I went to a dermatologist and they gave me move injections but it didn't make a difference (I went for 3 of so months which probably wasn't even time, looking back).

I saw a plastic surgeon and I asked if they could cut it off, which she had recommended against. I thought "I already have it so it can't get any worse". It became clear over the days after the removal that it was getting worse. The scar swelled and overtime it turned into a weird shape.

I ignored more for a few years but the keloids started to develop on my shoulders too. Smaller and flatter but it looked like they were taking over my whole upper body.

I like to work out and run. I love to work up a sweat but I have had to alter my workouts to reduce my sweat output. This was even more frustrating because I would think, "If I am going to have keloids, at least I will have my physique".

After a few more years of basically ignoring the problem I found a well regarded doctor in the Bay Area. He recommended cortisone shots and laser treatments. Again, after about 6 months it started to become clear I was not getting the result I wanted. While I saw modest improvements, I just wanted to be done with the keloids on my chest. The keloids on my shoulders I could live with despite the itch. The ones on my chest were bigger and more raised after the previous removal.

Asked the doctor about SRT-100 radiotherapy and he recommended Cryoshape instead. I was hesitant about doing the procedure because I didn't understand what prevented recurrence. I did some research and to be honest, I did not see one post, review or research that found it would make it worse. I asked the doctor if he would do just one or two because he had quoted $2,000 for the three on my chest. He basically said that he could do two for $1,900. I decided to take the plunge based on the research.

As of today, I have been recovering for 5 days. The keloids are still scabby and leaking fluid. I did not expect the healing process to be this intense but it is manageable. I am concerned because the swelling at this point looks twice as large as the original keloids and I feel them getting firmer. I don't know how much this is going to heal but I saw the doctor two days after the procedure and he said "This is in the realm of what we would expect right now". I have read the process can take a few months to see where it all settles so I am still optimistic.

I added some pictures to give everyone an idea. You can see the progression from before I originally went to the plastic surgeon, to before I did cryoshape and to my current state. My goal is to one day go on a sunny beach with my shirt off without these chest keloids.
Hi Neilman1,

Thanks for your immensely helpful first post Icon_surprised.

Sounds like you've certainly got more courage than me in facing steroid injections, surgery to remove scar tissue, laser treatment and Cryoshape Icon_thumbsup Icon_eek.

(22-07-2016 00:59)Neilman1 Wrote: [ -> ]Asked the doctor about SRT-100 radiotherapy and he recommended Cryoshape instead. I was hesitant about doing the procedure because I didn't understand what prevented recurrence. I did some research and to be honest, I did not see one post, review or research that found it would make it worse. I asked the doctor if he would do just one or two because he had quoted $2,000 for the three on my chest. He basically said that he could do two for $1,900. I decided to take the plunge based on the research.

Interesting pricing Icon_confused was there any structure with the quotations? Sounds awfully expensive and not necessarily price per scar.

(22-07-2016 00:59)Neilman1 Wrote: [ -> ]As of today, I have been recovering for 5 days. The keloids are still scabby and leaking fluid. I did not expect the healing process to be this intense but it is manageable. I am concerned because the swelling at this point looks twice as large as the original keloids and I feel them getting firmer. I don't know how much this is going to heal but I saw the doctor two days after the procedure and he said "This is in the realm of what we would expect right now". I have read the process can take a few months to see where it all settles so I am still optimistic.

When you mention ' I did not expect the healing process to be this intense' - do you refer to pain or do you refer to the scabby and leaking nature (presumably) requiring delicate attention? Are you mobile now, back to work, etc.? On a related note, are you able to describe the procedure itself in a little more detail, what happened on the day (or days leading up) and what the experience was like? Did they use a numbing agent?

Above all, it sounds like what you're experiencing now is expected from the doctor's perspective, that can only be a good thing Icon_smile. Did the doctor give any indication of when the swelling may decrease and what the recovery plan looks like for the next 2-4 weeks? It may be a good idea to have that identified up front so you can compare your real progress against the expected progress. Without this plan, the doctor can always say 'this is expected' regardless of what you report/show to him or her Icon_rolleyes (maybe I'm just being cynical here Icon_razz )

Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery Icon_toppa - would be awesome to see a success story Icon_nod.

Thanks,
c_man
Hello All,

I saw there was a reply on here and I figured it would be a good time for a follow up. The last time I posted was 5 days after the procedure. For anyone who's had struggle with keloid scars you can appreciate that when you see it getting worse there is a sinking feeling. When I was posting the original, I was freaking out thinking I had made a huge mistake. Fast forward 6 months and I am very happy with my decision. I'll follow up where I left off on the healing process.
When I did my treatment, I did 3 locations in close proximity. The wounds weapt like crazy. I replaced bandages for over two weeks and they all scabbed a few times. The weird part was that fluid drained into my abdomen and my gut swelled up. I got a few stretch marks from that but, they went away. Even weirder, my scrotum swole up to the size of a grapefruit. Again, fluid build up and eventually went away.
Even after a few weeks, the wound was still round red and raised. I checked back in my dermatologist and reassured me everything would be ok.
About 2 or 3 months after the procedure, I got a few more cortisone shots to drive home the treatment. Whereas before the scars reacted minimally to the shots, they flattened out big time. I have had 3 injection sessions since cryoshape and those really had a good effect. I would reccommend to anyone post treatment of the scars are still raised.
A caveat, the treatment hypopigmented my skin around the scars after the treatment more that I had expected. I think one of the skewers rested on part of my skin and got frozen when it didn't need to be if there were some gauze properly placed. That being said, the pigment is starting to return, albeit slowly. 6 months post treatment you can still see an outline but, I can tell by photo progression that it is coming back. The area directly over the old keloids is redder than I would like it. I've been using Finecea cream with my derm said would help. It's been about a month and it seems to be helping a little.
I think I was asked about down time. I thought I would be ok after the treatment with some discomfort but in underestimated the pain when the anesthesia wore off. I went straight to the pharmacy and knocked back pain killers as soon as I could. The area was quite sore for about 1 week post treatment. I would reccommend taking s few days of depending on the extent of the treatment. I did it in three spots dead center of my chest so most movements in made, I could feel it.
As far as the procedure itself, you can see videos of what they do. Numb the location, skewer the keloid and run liquid nitrogen through it until it freezes. It's a bit unnerving but, that's the price.
So final thought, I am happy with the results based on where I started and would definitely, absolutely, 100% do it again in the same situation. Before, I had weird shiny scars but now, I can run my fingers over the area and it's flat. I am going to South East Asia in February and I feel far more confident. While the color isn't what I'd like it to be, I bought some body makeup for a spot cover.
Last note, my scars came from acne and I am now on accutane. The breakouts have greatly reduced and I hope that will avoid any new keloid scars. I'll try to post some pics for everyone but, I'm on my iPhone and it can be a bit tricky.

See above thread. Picture of about 1 month post treatment. Really read around, still quite raised. I think there was a lot of dead tissue under at this point.
Picture at 2-3 months. Swelling greatly reduced, still pretty red. A cortisone shot was given a few days before this.

Photo as of today, 5 months after procedure. Bottom keloid is gone. Middle keloid slightly raised, pigment returning. Upper keloid basically flat. You can see an outline of an incision from failed removal several years ago. Area is pretty red in one part. Some slight scanning still. 3 cortisone shots administered since cryoshape.
Hey Neilman1,

Thanks for this post, it is very informative and relevant to myself as I have similar keloid scarring in numerous places in the centerline of my chest.

I'm debating either a series of steroid injections or cryoshape for them, and am really unsure which way to go. Your after pictures look a lot better, and would like to know if the pigmentation returned - would you be kind enough to post an update on your situation?

I hope since your last post you have healed well and that the Keloids are no longer at the forefront of your mind, so I will understand if we do not hear from you.

Thanks
Hello,

Saw the reply and hope this helps. The picture attached I took just now. Some pigment has returned and the scar is still pink. I will say, it looks worse in the pic looks worse than it is.

the scar is flat and the keloid is GONE and what remains is a scar that is not itchy and while it isn’t pretty, I am very happy with the results. It just looks like a normal scar or a burn. The one on the bottom is coming back a bit but I just need to get a cortisone shot or two to flatten it out, which is all I wanted. After the procedure I had a little recurrence but the cortisone shots became a lot more effective. I noticed signicant flattening after a single visit. The scar doesn’t itch and if want to go to the beach and feel insecure then I throw on some body make up and you can barely tell it’s there.

So, two years out from the procedure, I would highly reccommend the treatment. Again, the doctor told me if I went straight to removal and radiation then cyroshape would not be an option because the skin wouldn’t be able to heal. So if this doesn’t work you still have your options open. And once you tame the thing, you feel a lot more empowered. I don’t have to worry about this getting any worse. Let me know if you have any other q’s.
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